LEAKS - Explain this if you can!!!!

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LEAKS - Explain this if you can!!!!

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I've been suffering with my car doing a good impression of a rain gauge recently.
One small shower and I can measure the depths of the puddles inside in inches!!! . The water was collecting in two places - near side foot well, just under seat front edge and off side, behind drivers seat, in front of rear seat.
After various investigations and removing carpets and sound deadening, I realised the near side lake was coming from the centre tunnel front area. Then the penny dropped - the wiper wheel box was moving in the body (250 miles to Norfolk recently in the rain obviously didn't help).
So it's now tight and sealed and..... result.... No longer puddles in the near side foot well.

But much to my surprise, the water feature being the driver seat has largely gone also!! !!! How can this be? The carpet in front of the drivers seat has always been dry, and as far as I can tell, there's a ridge in the floor pan beneath the drivers seat separating front well from rear well. How on earth can water get from the wiper wheel box to the rear foot well without soaking everything between????

I would add my drive points up hill, so the front wheels are about 9 " above the rears when parked, but it doesn't slope left to right.

Any thoughts????

Tony
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It'll be them there capillaries!

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Pete Boole wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 22:32
It'll be them there capillaries!

Pete
Yeah maybe racking along/under the center console trim?
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It's been a bit damp here recently (master of understatements!!!) 🌧️🌧️🌧️
And yes, the O/S rear is still filling up nicely🛁.
Removed drivers seat this afternoon and lifted the rear foam backed Rubber floor insulation. My... its amazing just how much water a small piece can absorb.
The evidence would suggest that some of the water was tracking along the wiring loom by the inner sill to find its way from the front to the rear . But I'm still surprised it can have stayed so dry in the front!!!
So, just need a drop more rain now to be able to see what fills up first. Got a feeling I won't need to wait too long!!!
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I had water coming in via door seal capillary action. Used some sealant on the seal and all is good
Umm! What to do next?

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I know how much water that insulation can hold from first hand experience :shock:

To track my leaks I dusted the inside floor and sills with talc so could see the tracks left from the water. Mine were door seal to window frame, door seals at sills and also door hinge bolt.

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Seems I still have a problem:
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You can just about make out the edge of the puddle (dark red).
There was no real evidence about where the water runs in from. Definitely not via the centre tunnel, but feeling inside the rear quarter trim ( just visible), it felt damp, so 15 minutes later, another significant sized trim piece was out of the car ( Appears highly unlikely this rear quarter panel has ever been out before, as the B post line was bonded to the leather / cloth trim that runs up the door post - and that is bonded to the door aperture !).
Anyway, it's now all out and the good news I suppose is that the inside area was very dry and dusty, with a very secure bond of the rear quarter window, so all good there.

What was obvious though, was that the leather strip that runs up the door aperture B post (is trapped under the door seal) was completely sodden all the way up to the window line. so off that came also. Oh - and the door seal, which was silicon bonded to the door lip for good measure.
It's now pretty clear that this leak is the result of water getting past the door seal. I don't think it is the seal to door leaking. I believe, despite the door seal being siliconed to the body, the water was still getting inside the seal "U". then finding a route out on the inside lip of the door aperture.

One job leads to another though, cos now the cloth trim on B post above window line has disintegrated ( so that's probably going black leather for the time being) and with so much of the trim now in the garage, it seems daft to put it back in to the car before giving it a good leather feed and recolour.

It's a good job it's winter and we're in lock down. Just thinking I should have SORNed the car for a couple of months.
This car will be in more bits than the Elite soon :roll: :roll: :roll:

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You need to change your signature...

What comes apart - stays apart :D :D :D :D :D :lol:
Umm! What to do next?

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Nice One. :D :D :D
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Re: LEAKS - Explain this if you can!!!!

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That's exactly how the water was getting into my Excel - re-bedded the door seal and it was cured.

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