Best brakes to fit on (or inside) standard wheels

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Best brakes to fit on (or inside) standard wheels

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I have a 1985 Excel. all my brakes need replacing.... the full system.

so before I go and replace like for like... what is the best upgrades to go for.

MOST IMPORTANTLY.... IM ON A BUDGET. (Turbo cheapskate here)

my callipers have been removed but 3 of the 4 bleed nipples didn't come out without a fight...which may have left 3 of the 4 rather useless.

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You can pretty much lock up the wheels with the standard set-up with good pads and the rest of the system working properly. It depends on whether the car will see the track.

So.... a turbo 912 on it's way?? :D

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it most certainly will be hitting the track.....
and yes it may too have a turbo :D

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Apparently Mintex 1144 do really well, but best thing is ask Mike Taylor @ Lotusbits as he can probably advise whether they're up to race as well.
There's a setup that wasn't very expensive when I did it but may no be harder to source callipers at a reasonable cost.

viewtopic.php?p=46724#p46724

and

viewtopic.php?p=89045#p89045

theflyingjohn did a conversion with the same callipers and discs as mine but configured slightly differently so I think was less machining involved.

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AndyC wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 20:15
Apparently Mintex 1144 do really well, but best thing is ask Mike Taylor @ Lotusbits as he can probably advise whether they're up to race as well.
There's a setup that wasn't very expensive when I did it but may no be harder to source callipers at a reasonable cost.

viewtopic.php?p=46724#p46724

and

viewtopic.php?p=89045#p89045

theflyingjohn did a conversion with the same callipers and discs as mine but configured slightly differently so I think was less machining involved.
Thank you i shall look into these options and see if they are still cost effective.

if my original callipers can be saved i shall try the Mintex 1144 option too.

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fast_wedge wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 19:37
it most certainly will be hitting the track.....
and yes it may too have a turbo :D
We need to see photos of your project! Sounds interesting. What flavour wedge is it? Where do plan on placing the turbo?

Welcome to the forum by the way!

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PNM engineering do a tidy big brake 4 pot hi spec caliper with 285 mm dics from std 256mm. Cango 310 mm. Got them on my sa. Lotuesbits do a similar set up but is beefier and costs more
Umm! What to do next?

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Pete Boole wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 23:18
fast_wedge wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 19:37
it most certainly will be hitting the track.....
and yes it may too have a turbo :D
We need to see photos of your project! Sounds interesting. What flavour wedge is it? Where do plan on placing the turbo?

Welcome to the forum by the way!

Pete
well I have considered many places to put the turbo....turbo Spoiler...turbo wheels...turbo seats.
but apparently its most effective on the engine :D :D

Once I figure out how to work a computer ill get some photos up.

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Hawaiis0 wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 23:45
PNM engineering do a tidy big brake 4 pot hi spec caliper with 285 mm dics from std 256mm. Cango 310 mm. Got them on my sa. Lotuesbits do a similar set up but is beefier and costs more
I have seen some of these kit and they look fantastic... but they are all rather pricey- I should know better you get what you pay for. but I am working to a budget for now.

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fast_wedge wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 07:38
Pete Boole wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 23:18
fast_wedge wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 19:37
it most certainly will be hitting the track.....
and yes it may too have a turbo :D
We need to see photos of your project! Sounds interesting. What flavour wedge is it? Where do plan on placing the turbo?

Welcome to the forum by the way!

Pete

well I have considered many places to put the turb
o....turbo Spoiler...turbo wheels...turbo seats.
but apparently its most effective on the engine :D :D

Once I figure out how to work a computer ill get some photos up.
Welcome to the forum. Seems to be a flush of new members atm. :)

I can't recall anyone successfully fitting a turbo to an Excel. Space and heat issues. Lotus abandoned fitting the 910 engine for that reason.

I guess if it's for track use then you could mess about with the bulk head to create space but not sure there's much leeway...probably would melt the windscreen adhesive :shock: . It would be easier/better to fit a competition-proven n/a 2.5L LotusBits engine for the track , especially if you want throttle response, anyhow..but that's definitely not possible on a small budget!
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Post by DavidOliver »

For ordinary brake parts, including calipers, try Brakes International. Cheaper than renovating, ask for your discount.
For master/slave cylinders Land Rover are best value new bits.

Fitting a Turbo will give you more headaches than other power raising alternatives which are readily available.

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DavidOliver wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:41
Fitting a Turbo will give you more headaches than other power raising alternatives which are readily available.

Dave the cog.
Fear not. The turbo is alaready fitted

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Aw that's cheating! :lol:
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Almost as bad as fitting a V8!! :roll: :lol:

What was the engine in originally?

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