Heater fan is working - hooray!

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Heater fan is working - hooray!

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I've had a few days off work, so finally got around to a few niggly jobs on the car, some of which have been present since I bought the thing.

Today's progress is - I finally have a 4-speed fan, rather than the binary on-or-off option I've lived with for almost 4 years!

As expected, the culprit was the resistor pack. For those who will no doubt come after me and repeat this job, I found it distinctly easier to access via the removable panel at the back of the glove compartment than in the "Lotus Position" (lying on one's back with head in the footwell). That said, it still wasn't exactly easy to reach...

The resistor block is part 19 on this page if you have access to the parts manual, but it doesn't really show you very clearly where it fits.

Stick your hand in round behind the blower motor, and on the top you will find the resistor pack. Follow the wires to lead you to it. Disconnect the wires (you need to find a plastic clip on the connector to press down before it'll come off). The good news is the resistor pack is held in with only one cross-head screw. The bad news is that it's a bugger to undo, because there is limited space above the screw to fit a screwdriver. The best option is probably one of these:
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but I didn't have one, and I lost my stubby screwdriver so can't confirm if that would fit. I have a screwdriver with an extendible flexible shaft, but that's not flexible enough. I succeeded by using the screwdriver bit from the flexi-screwdriver; combined with pliers I could make a half a turn, and after that I could unscrew it using the screwdriver bit alone.

The BAD news is that they do not make the resistor pack A089P8047F any more - SJ Sportscars list it (for a pricey £73.01 +VAT), but when I tried to order one Steve replied that it's been obsolete since 2011 :(

Fortunately Lotusbits would sell me one, but only attached to an entire blower assembly including the housing, fan and all. So I now have an entire blower assembly, minus resistor pack, if anyone could make use of it?

Comparison between my old resistor pack and the replacement:

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How on earth did my old one manage to get in such a state???

Installation is the reverse of assembly (to quote Haynes), being very careful not to mash the exposed wires as you slot it into place.

I did try measuring the resistance of each coil with my multimeter, in case anyone in the future felt motivated to re-wire their existing resistor block. I got readings of around 1.0Ω for each coil, but with such low resistance it was difficult to get a steady and meaningful number.

I hope this proves useful to someone some day.
"Farmer" Richard

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I'd suggest pulling the fan out and checking the bearings and brushes for good measure. It's possible that the resistors have burnt out due to overload on the lower settings. Given the amount of detritus that can accumulate in the fan, including water, it's worth dropping it out for a check & clean now and then.
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Cheers Angus, might do. Or simply check over the spare fan I've now ended up with, and swap it in. I did give it a spin while I had access and it seemed to move freely enough.

Oh yes, and I meant to mention, I'm still sticking with Angus' Law that it is the natural state of any Lotus always to have one fault, and you should leave one you can live with... actually I have two (fuel smell in the boot, power steering belt that squeals even when the pump is moved to the tightest position), I need to decide which I should fix, and which I should live with...
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Update - I've had an email back from The South West Lotus Centre to say that they have an NOS resistor pack in stock, £75.20 +VAT. Just in case anyone wants a brand new one.
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What sometimes works for me when trying to find equivalents to obsolete parts is Google Images. I've used this successfully to source replacement sun visors for my S2 Elite (BMW E46 - used - £10 the pair) and looking up 'fan resistor pack' brought lots of results including this at £5.99: http://www.amazon.co.uk/THG-Replacement ... B00E587S30

Ok more research would be needed but worth a try!

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richardw wrote: 'fan resistor pack' brought lots of results including this at £5.99: http://www.amazon.co.uk/THG-Replacement ... B00E587S30
Very interesting find.
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Very common toyota part from the same era, as fitted to celica and supra variants. I have sourced quite a few from wreckers.
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Was inspired to by your post to finally do mine. I have a bleeding right hand to show for it. There is just enough room even for someone with shovels for hands in through the glovebox. Would be very difficult if not impossible to reach from under the dash as it is in a shaped hollow in the back of the fan housing and actually goes in towards the front of the car at 45 degrees. Found that the best tool for the job is a quarter inch ratchet with a small adapter socket and a ph2 screwdriver bit. Requires a lot of patience. It is nice to finally have 4 fan speeds again. Going go nurse my wounds now!.

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