Mystery engine bay connector
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Mystery engine bay connector
87 SE
Under the airbox, near ignition box, wrapped in tape
have to get out again and check the wire colors
Under the airbox, near ignition box, wrapped in tape
have to get out again and check the wire colors
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Re: Mystery engine bay connector
Probably someone has disconnected the rev limiter (RL).gusexcel wrote:87 SE
Under the airbox, near ignition box, wrapped in tape
have to get out again and check the wire colors
The RL breaks down and causes all sorts of running problems. BUT you DO need an RL. If you over rev a 900 series engine you will bend valves.
Best solution is a NOS Lotus RL but if that is impossible - then fit an after market RL like the OMEX CLUBMAN. I have used an OMEX CLUBMAN RL and can vouch for their superiority. Others on here have fitted OMEX RLs too and have no complaints.
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Re: Mystery engine bay connector
pic of the connector
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Re: Mystery engine bay connector
Peter,Lotus-e-Clan wrote:The RL breaks down and causes all sorts of running problems. BUT you DO need an RL. If you over rev a 900 series engine you will bend valves.
I don't know about that. There's a little 'oops' over-rev, and there's seriously over-revving it. As long as the timing belt doesn't skip timing, valve float isn't going to be an issue until a stratospheric over-rev occurs. Well beyond a little oops.
We never got the 912 on this side of the pond, just 907s & 910s; but I'm not aware of anything about the 912 or it's cams & valve springs that would make it more sensitive to over-revving. I used to autocross my '79 Eclat (104 cams) and '80 Esprit S2, and both saw the full-throttle high side of redline on many occassions. The Esprit's engine is a 2.2-converted 907 with stock rods, a ported head, DS2 cams (a step hotter than the 104), and headers, and I've taken it to 8500 rpm without so much as a hiccup.
I'm not discounting the importance of the rev limiter or recommending that anyone tempt fate. If the rev limiter works, use it. But if it doesn't work, I wouldn't get too paranoid about it.
If I'm missing something unique about the 912, please let me know. I'm always into learning.
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Re: Mystery engine bay connector
Hello Tim
I'm recalling a couple of incidents of loose foot well carpets getting under the accelerator pedal and sticking it wide open with no rev limiter resulted in a top end overall IIRC. Obviously this is a serious over rev - I don't know how much over.
I've not experienced this myself. Pretty sure it was Jerry on here that had the worst outcome.
My factory rev limiter goes to 7000 rpm (some say theirs are set around 6500rpm IIRC) and I've been up there lots (momentary) with no ill effects.
Controlling the revs when driving is OK without a RL - but it's those stuck WOT moments (eg carpets) that do the damage without a rev limiter.
I'm recalling a couple of incidents of loose foot well carpets getting under the accelerator pedal and sticking it wide open with no rev limiter resulted in a top end overall IIRC. Obviously this is a serious over rev - I don't know how much over.
I've not experienced this myself. Pretty sure it was Jerry on here that had the worst outcome.
My factory rev limiter goes to 7000 rpm (some say theirs are set around 6500rpm IIRC) and I've been up there lots (momentary) with no ill effects.
Controlling the revs when driving is OK without a RL - but it's those stuck WOT moments (eg carpets) that do the damage without a rev limiter.
Peter K
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Re: Mystery engine bay connector
Done the carpet thing but RL was fitted. Fortunately I was on a dual carriageway and was able to squeeze past the leading traffic before turning ignition off and coasting to a halt 2 miles down the road!Lotus-e-Clan wrote:Hello Tim
I'm recalling a couple of incidents of loose foot well carpets getting under the accelerator pedal and sticking it wide open with no rev limiter resulted in a top end overall IIRC. Obviously this is a serious over rev - I don't know how much over.
Also fortuitous was it was an autobox and it just wanted to drive rather than over rev. RL may have kicked in but I was too busy at the time to notice.
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Re: Mystery engine bay connector
If the Rev Limiter is disconnected you will know, spin the engine.
The other electrical fiddling we find is the installation of theft devices, normally post factory so often an Amatuer fix, but a damn nuisance to try and unravel as you can be left with a dud start.
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The other electrical fiddling we find is the installation of theft devices, normally post factory so often an Amatuer fix, but a damn nuisance to try and unravel as you can be left with a dud start.
Dave the cog.
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Re: Mystery engine bay connector
Disconnected wires in that region might also be the purge pump - a small air pump that sucks hot air out of the air filter box, which helps if you need to restart a still-hot engine.
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Re: Mystery engine bay connector
That looks like a non standard connector to me, I dont recognise it at all.
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Re: Mystery engine bay connector
I concur with m'learned colleague. That does not look like something that was fitted in Norfolk.bash wrote:That looks like a non standard connector to me, I dont recognise it at all.
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Re: Mystery engine bay connector
Gus, you have us all on tiptoes wondering what your connector is and the cable colo(u)rs.
Next time down there try disconnecting the connector and see what happens, actually what does NOT happen.
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Next time down there try disconnecting the connector and see what happens, actually what does NOT happen.
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Re: Mystery engine bay connector
Looks like it matches the one on mine. I believe that is the Rev limiter next to the AB 14? Correct?
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Re: Mystery engine bay connector
Rev limiter is usually further forward and lower down, with just 3 wires going to it from the splice that also feeds the rev counter.
Could that be the engine speed sensor for the throttle jack? The wiring colours look right for it. (rev limiter should have white, white/slate and black only)
I think I'll retract my previous statement and go with a connector for the speed sensor for the throttle jack.
Could that be the engine speed sensor for the throttle jack? The wiring colours look right for it. (rev limiter should have white, white/slate and black only)
I think I'll retract my previous statement and go with a connector for the speed sensor for the throttle jack.
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