1992 Excel SE - How far is too far?

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Things are starting to take off.... or be taken off rather.

How far is too far is the recurring question. yep, door is off, what started with removing the door card to redye it, to fixing the notorious door handle whilst in the back of my head always chiming 'Those door beams could do with a spruce'. But too far was my answer. Well, while attempting to free up the door hinge, stuff it! It's coming off. So beams will be blasted and repainted.

The next one made me laugh... The nose badge always looked suspicious to me.

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How singular it is that the yellow has faded to nothing. reaching up in under the nose cone, I could feel that it had just been stuck on so armed with a heat gun we got it prised off and underneath the tired emblem was the original, and in some shape I may add.

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Kind of sums up the care and attention this car has lacked in the past...

and I'm scared to know how a badge could get in such a shape.

But just that day, my dad had been talking to friends who are home from Canada, the son of whom was delighting in recalling the time when he wrecked his fathers new Lotus Espirit, and the trophy he claimed for his efforts was the front badge of the car... I wonder would he donate it to the good cause haha.
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Re: 1992 Excel SE - getting stuck in

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Great workspace you've got there! Engine hoist as well - nice. Doing the door beams is a great idea - check how much slack there is in the hinge pins first. Good to see you're making progress.

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Thanks Pete, had started outside which was a race after work to get anything done before the sun disappeared... when it wasn't raining...
Good to be under cover.

Door beam update, back from the blasters. I expected it to be worse.
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Also been sussing out our fan problems, found some botched toggle switch cable tied to the servo (so any time she overheated, pull over, lift bonnet, knock on the fan??? my only guess) so bye bye to that. tested the otter switch, worked once, but nothing giving since so have one from stoney racing on it's way, fan on at 90°, out at 80°. Hopefully does the trick.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183540507743

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Tested the fans, they've been replaced with the common 90's Ford replacement, one of the plugs has burnt out so need to source one of them.

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Also sourced myself a new headlight...
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New windscreen will be fitted also, the current has badly delaminated and has a nasty chip, so A-Pillars are off ready for that. Before fitting the new one, it gives good access to re-sewing the centre joint in the dash leather which has started to pull apart.
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Re: 1992 Excel SE - How far is too far?

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Do you have a plan for the door beam. Looks weak (rusted through) at the hinge pin on the underside.
It will have lost a lot of torsional strength, which I find is good test on a built car to identify a beam needing work ( hold the top of the frame and oscillate - Does the bottom of the door follow as one, or lag indicating a shot beam).

Thinking you'll need to give your son a torch to hold before the first night drive :lol:

Great to see your progress.
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Re: 1992 Excel SE - How far is too far?

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I went to look at that car. I couldn't get to drive it and the guy didn't even want me to run it. I noticed the fan issue and said can I check it doesn't overheat. He said no! . I found him a challenge 🤣. So I just left it. Your paint looks great but when I saw it it looked flat. I ended up buying something else but you look like you are doing an amazing job. Well done.

I ended up buying a white LC but my favourite by far is a late SE in red. Love yours.

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Been a while since I last gave an update, but progress has been coming along.

Kind of before...
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Currently..
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Cam covers repainted with Crinkle finish.
necessary gaskets replaced.
All belts & filters replaced.
Radiator recored.
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Steering rack gaiters replaced.
Botched fan override removed and reverted to original with new otter switch.
Purge pump rebuilt.
Seized fan rebuilt.
Fibreglass repair to undertray.

and a fierce good cleaning!

Also bonnet frame restored.
Before...
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After...
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Shout out to Pete Boole for supplying Bobbins for the bonnet. Gentleman.

That's a brief overview over everything under the bonnet. Plenty been going on elsewhere in the car.
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MetBlue wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 16:55 Do you have a plan for the door beam. Looks weak (rusted through) at the hinge pin on the underside.
It will have lost a lot of torsional strength, which I find is good test on a built car to identify a beam needing work ( hold the top of the frame and oscillate - Does the bottom of the door follow as one, or lag indicating a shot beam).
Cut & welded new section in. Door rebuilt & some serious difference between before & after.
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Looking great! Good work.

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That is really looking nice. Great attention to detail!

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Some great progress made last night.

The saga of the interior

Here, revealed to the whole world is the "easily repaired" seat. Deemed so by the previous owner. He was even kind enough to supply me with a sowing set to do it. :roll: Not going to lie, it did come in handy for other things.

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On top of this, he attempted to "re-dye" the leather, probably due to Jazzy's comments when he went to see the car :lol:. No prep, just slapped the stuff on with a brush, filled the perforations and just overall looked ready for the bin.... which is where it is now.

A retrim was in order.

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The finished... for now... article.

Overall a good job. But I'm picky.... loose and wrinkly in places, the perforation isn't exactly the same (new is a through cut circle whilst the original was more of an indented diamond pierce), extra joint put in the front and the colour was off. Too well done you could say, it was gonna stick out like a sore thumb.
So come to the decision that the passenger seat (which needed some repair & a re-dye on the base anyway) was to get retrimmed also. An expensive decision but I feel it had to be done. Both seats are currently with the retrimmer, the drivers is getting tightened up and headrest made smaller &c.

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As can be seen under artificial light, the sheen that the leather has gathered over the years is also a problem.

So two new front seats, pure class, as we say in Northern Ireland. But the original interior has the same sheen & also the colour is still that shade off.

Leather Repair Company to the rescue.

I didn't want to come to this point.... but....
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Useless photo but it gets the point across.. Interior fully stripped out. which meant discovering the rotten seatbelt brackets. Lotus Bits to the rescue.

But back to LRC.

They are the boys. Great stuff.

Sent of a sample of the new leather and ordered the Leather Colourant Dye Repair Kit 1L.

The leather prep is magic stuff. Just look at the colour difference of the grab handle.
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Set to the prepwork. Scotch-brite & Leather Prep all over, no need to remove all existing dye, just enough to get rid of grime and a good clean surface to stick to.
Then I went over all the stitching with Winsor & Newton Masking Liquid with a fine brush.

I had dyed various bits already with the stuff the previous owner had, using a sponging method. It worked, but took a long time. So spraying it is.

BEFORE
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(This was the good door card

AFTER
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DURING
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Close up of the rear seat
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Finished off with a laquer, LRC give you two bottles, Matt & Gloss, you mix them to your preference. I found that the straight Matt left a white haze so mixed a little of the gloss in, a slight sheen but finishes the leather well.

Hopefully this liquid masking works well. Will attempt to remove it tonight. Don't know how but we'll figure it out.

Happy with the outcome. It's a good match to the new leather & the matt(ish) finish is less tacky looking.

Re-dying the dash in situ is the next mission.
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Fantastic! Sometimes there is no other option but to spend some money :D.

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. Re-dying the dash in situ is the next mission.
Your work looks very familiar. Did mine last year. There's a topic on here I did at the time about things the suppliers don't tell you. I'll find a link letter.

I made the initial mistake of trying to do the dash in situ. Spent 2 hours trying to mask everywhere up, then someone here pointed out there are only 7 bolts / screws holding dash in. From point of stripe down I'd reached, it only took 30 minutes more to remove it.
Worth investigating.

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True to your signature Tony haha.

Don't know entirely your set up Tony but I do have the advantage of having no windscreen, carpet, headliner or anything else fitted atm, so plenty of access around it and a bit easier to mask off.

One question is, are the heater vents in the dash easily removed?
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Dwaynem884 wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 08:02 One question is, are the heater vents in the dash easily removed?
Easy to remove - tricky to put back. They are held in place by sprung steel clips which squish down as you pull the vent out. Getting them to sit back inside the flexible plastic vent trim behind them is challenging, to say the least!

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Dwaynem884 wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 08:02 One question is, are the heater vents in the dash easily removed?
The dash removal / replacement process, including mention of the heater vents, is described in this post.
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