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Starter Motor For Excel SA
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 01:27
by rmlotusexcelsa
Hi All,
Which starter motor is used on a 1987 SA Auto ?
Can the lightweight high torque starter motor be used on a auto?
Cheers Roger
Re: Starter Motor For Excel SA
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:36
by amarshall
According to the parts manual (PM Spav on this forum for details of how to get access and bear in mind that we are the only group with factory permission to make it available to our members) it's either a Lucas 3M100 or Lucas M80R.
They're standard motors and any competent rewinder should have no trouble rebuilding them if necessary. I certainly had no problem getting the solenoid on mine repaired after it failed in Madrid last year (managed to get the car home first, but starting was very touch and go).
Re: Starter Motor For Excel SA
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 18:16
by rmlotusexcelsa
Hi
Many thanks for the link very helpful i have ordered a new lightweight high torque gear reduction starter.
Cheers Roger
Re: Starter Motor For Excel SA
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 18:31
by Megatech
Are you sure the problem is caused by the starter motor?
The battery and the starter/generator are seperated by app. 3 m of cable and at least 4 connections.
A weak connection from the battery to the starter can cause the starter motor just to activate and not turn the engine over.
The problem goes both ways as the battery will not charge with 14,2 V.
Try to meassure the voltage at the starter when activated - and the charging voltage at the battery at min. 3000 rpm.
I had this problem with both a Fiat X1/9 and a Matra Murena.
Good luck.
Re: Starter Motor For Excel SA
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 18:48
by rmlotusexcelsa
amarshall wrote:According to the parts manual (PM Spav on this forum for details of how to get access and bear in mind that we are the only group with factory permission to make it available to our members) it's either a Lucas 3M100 or Lucas M80R.
They're standard motors and any competent rewinder should have no trouble rebuilding them if necessary. I certainly had no problem getting the solenoid on mine repaired after it failed in Madrid last year (managed to get the car home first, but starting was very touch and go).
Hi Angus,
Many thanks for that info,i have ordered a new high torque starter from Euro Elec direct next day delivery who make these starters from motorsport.
Lightweight use 50% less power & fast turn over for HC engine.
Eclat Track car driver uses this starter works better than standard starter.
Mine has the lucas starter recon about 5 years ago gearbox is a ZF like land rover .
Many thanks
Roger
Re: Starter Motor For Excel SA
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 18:52
by rmlotusexcelsa
Megatech wrote:Are you sure the problem is caused by the starter motor?
The battery and the starter/generator are seperated by app. 3 m of cable and at least 4 connections.
A weak connection from the battery to the starter can cause the starter motor just to activate and not turn the engine over.
The problem goes both ways as the battery will not charge with 14,2 V.
Try to meassure the voltage at the starter when activated - and the charging voltage at the battery at min. 3000 rpm.
I had this problem with both a Fiat X1/9 and a Matra Murena.
Hi
I have had this checked today by a auto spark confirmed it is the starter he check all the elec & earths.
Many thanks
Roger
Good luck.
Re: Starter Motor For Excel SA
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 23:17
by rmlotusexcelsa
Hi
Fitted new High Torque Lightweight Startmotor what a differance.
Flys the engine over,
1st turn fires into life when stone cold.
Best buy
Got it from manufactors direct next day delivery saved a packet
BTW have you read the report on Lotus Excels & whole of the rest of the Lotus range going back over the years in the Classic Cars For Sale Magazine Feb 2010 great read
Many thanks
Roger
1987 Black & Gold Excel SA
Re: Starter Motor For Excel SA
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:51
by bash
what was the question again ???
Re: Starter Motor For Excel SA
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 13:10
by NickC
rmlotusexcelsa wrote:
Hi
Fitted new High Torque Lightweight Startmotor what a differance.
Flys the engine over,
1st turn fires into life when stone cold.
Best buy
Got it from manufactors direct next day delivery saved a packet
BTW have you read the report on Lotus Excels & whole of the rest of the Lotus range going back over the years in the Classic Cars For Sale Magazine Feb 2010 great read
Many thanks
Roger
1987 Black & Gold Excel SA
Roger, where did you get your High Torque Lightweight Starter motor from? You mentioned Euro Elec but who/where are they.
Thanks,
Nick
Re: Starter Motor For Excel SA
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 13:20
by amarshall
NickC wrote:
Roger, where did you get your High Torque Lightweight Starter motor from? You mentioned Euro Elec but who/where are they.
Thanks,
Nick
Possibly these guys :
http://www.eurolec-components.co.uk/
I've also heard some good reports about these :
http://shop1.actinicexpress.co.uk/shops ... igh_Torque